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posted by [personal profile] astarte at 03:57am on 22/05/2008 under


Artist/Song Title: Natalie Merchant - My Skin
Subject: AtS, Cordelia PoV, Cordelia/Angel
Original Date: 2003-04-23
Remastered: 2008-05-22
Summary: ‘Well, contempt loves the silence - It thrives in the dark with fine winding tendrils that strangle the heart. They say that promises sweeten the blow. But I don't need them.’ Cordelia has been through a lot - The vision pain made her slowly untouchable and Angel realizing the truths and changes much too late to save her.
Format: 720x400 56 MB AVI, mediafire, megaupload, sendspace, permanent download link, watch on imeem
or watch the original on imeem

Yay for resolutions and new hard drives. The original vid is five years old and it shows in all the wrong places. There were a lot of unnecessary talking heads, good shots I avoided because they were in every single C/A-vid at that time. So the remaster was more elaborate compared to ‘Watch the Sky’ which was basically plain clip replacing with DVD source.

Reasons to vid ‘My Skin’ back then? Well, to be honest I was bitter. And pretty disappointed by season 4 and how the big arcs played out. The source of my frustration wasn’t even that Cordelia’s body got hijacked and all hell broke loose. It was the way they handled Cordelia/Angel since season 3 toying with the possibility and not committing to anything, which for me sucked the fun right out of it. They were so entertaining before and had an unlikely friendship and trust in each other established and then all of the sudden the complex layers got ripped off, when Angel realized that he could be in love with her. Duh! Or should I go dun-dun-dun?

I mean Cordelia’s heart was always as big as her smile and in the right place – It made Angel look dumb and Cordelia look dumber for creating not intentionally an Angel clone with Groo. Would have telling Angel straight to the face that he has a curse and she has a life and just one of these two things has an expiring date hurt the sainthood they were aiming for at the end of season 3? Doubtless, but I didn’t like the road they were travelling at that point anyway and it would have been more fun than the clumsy denial dance.

I was frustrated by the writers and their poor handling of that relationship. They didn’t seem to grasp why people were shipping these two since the beginning. Or notice that these two had an easy and charming chemistry when romantic love wasn’t forced on them. That they worked in their established patters and that the conventional way of romance wasn’t something a fan of the series was interested. Or maybe that was just me, but c’mon Lilah/Wesley, Darla/Angel or Faith/Wesley compared to the sugar-coated Fred/Gunn, Fred/Wesley of Cordelia/Groo? I didn’t want to see fairy tales – I wanted some inner conflict and not outside forces tearing up the tru luv or keeping them apart by all means. For me this seemed always a lazy way to tell a story. I still think so and the darkness they applied to them in season 4 was once again an outside force and so it was dissatisfying for me. Because I loved their dark undertones beneath the family dynamic of AI and that Cordelia could always be a bitch and Angel could sometimes be an asshole and they still made it work at the end of the night. But –

This is still my favourite Buffyverse ship and canon has plenty of remarkable couples. But this is the one that inspires most of my fics and I tried to capture with ‘My Skin’ what I love about them and why these two fascinated me from the pilot without knowing anything about BtVS or even their history. They just work for me in their endless possibilities and changes. Partly because I prefer friends to lovers and their dynamic is appealing. Cordelia/Angel are the only pairing I can write at any point on the timeline and they still make perfect sense for me.

So indeed very flawed, funny, flirty, fierce and furious and therefore inspiring.

So back to the video - My announcement back then was that this was my goodbye to my favourite ship and this time around I had ‘You’re welcome’ to include which in itself was a beautiful exit and reminder what Cordelia added to the whole team. I think all seasons are equally represented in this vid and like I said, I can find something interesting about these two at any time. Probably one reason why I didn’t cut off the song at the four minute mark and let it have its run with almost five and half minutes. This is as [livejournal.com profile] xandra_ptv mildly put it ‘a very long vid’ for someone who hates this pairing with passion and she is right. But she will be the only one who had no choice and was blackmailed in watching the vid.

Lyrical interpretation: I don’t even know how I found ‘My Skin’ - It was before the song was used in Alias and I really have no clue how I stumbled upon this gem. I just know that my mind immediately declared it as fucking perfect song for the emotions I wanted to express about these two. You can’t beat, ‘Angel, sweet love of my life’, if you are doing a shipper vid.

So this is my take on Cordelia/Angel and the lyrics are beautiful and so painfully right, I don’t think they need explaining. So we can skip to the next step on my posting formula:

The Journey? I got a new hard drive back in April and started ripping AtS/BtVS the same evening. I wanted to do several remasters of my old vids for some time now and ‘My Skin’ was on top of that particular list for the reasons mentioned above. It was the one most dearly to me and in so profound need of redoing, so once everything was set for vidding I started straight away and pretty much did the first four minutes of timeline in one week, before I went back to finish ‘Clear the Area’ and getting awfully distracted by Stephen King’s ‘Dark Tower’ and real life once again. So last week I grabbed the final audio quotes I wanted to use and redid some of the final minute and I think now everything holds tightly together in the way I imagined it back then and couldn’t pull off at that time.

Technical notes worth mentioning? I chose simple editing to tell this story and pretty much let my cutting freak run free in the last minute to avoid the audience dozing off. I think that the audio overlays focus the fast-floating images even when some people disapprove of (extensive) audio overlay. The quotes hold the end together here like in the original vid. Again the colouring was done with Avisynth and in my opinion it adds to the overall mood.

Final note: I won’t give into the temptation of remastering every single AtS-vid – I hope, but there might be more remasters in store. It is fun, it is faster than doing a new one and I had some years to think about slight changes for these vids. Even when I fear that ‘Haunted’ will kick my ass in that department. I’m not even sure I will be able to find every Spike scene I used there. Damn. It’s the same reason I was backing away of remastering ‘Hey Pretty’… for the time being. I dearly hope everybody enjoys this new version and now I will be a good little girl and finally do the replies for ‘Clear the Area’, because I sucked so hard at online communication for the past weeks…
Mood:: 'nostalgic' nostalgic
There are 40 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 02:05am on 22/05/2008
Oh wow, baby, the explanation is almost as long as the vid itself. But the video is beautiful and very well put together i can forgive the evilness of your ship. Even though you blackmailed me. Also i must not forget how you ditched me for a month and never even said anything about my clear the area snark. I was waiting to be punished and punish you.

But seriously long winded much? And about Cangle? Aordy? did they ever get a combined named? But seriously you know i loved the vid or i would have been less snippy. kiss

And i'm stopping now cause i dont go on and on with nonesense...
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 02:14am on 22/05/2008
I think some refered to it as Cangel and that is - uhm - not the way I do it, either the whole names or C/A. Yes ma'am. You know the only smashed ship name I can get fully behind is Bangel - it just sums up the whole disaster for me. Hehe. And yes, you were pretty understanding for 'My Skin' - I was expecting more snark, fight and whining from you. So I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't apply all my mighty force on you and instead made you even say the wondervid-thing!

But thank you again for the beta-job and forgiveness of my disappearing act - You know I'm working on perfecting that.... *snuggles up and gives a big kiss*
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 02:20am on 22/05/2008
yeah I never liked bangle made me think they were earings or an 80s band. I thought Spuffy worked because of how most of the fandom made them Fluffy. I know, i'm very easy going about how your spiting me all the time... its because i feel i dont have the time to really fight you before you go away again.

and you know a typo when you see it bitch. god i never type correctly ever, i'm just lucky you understand crazy nosense-english.

*snuggles in* So what are we going to do now?

 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 02:31am on 22/05/2008
Fucking? There is only that answer, if you ask so innocently, my love.

And Spuffy always makes me grin – It’s so *shrugs* - I can’t even explain it.

See, the good thing about my absence is that two minutes in we are already sharing the same brain wave. It’s uncanny. And you can always fight me, just be ready to be tied up and me ignoring our safety word. Did we even made up one? *licks her lips seductive*
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 02:36am on 22/05/2008
safe word? lets go with Cangel. I dont know how to say it exactly so it wont matter anyway.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 02:42am on 22/05/2008
*snickers* Precious, you know you shouldn't tempt me into teasing the safe word out of you? This only can go downhill from here on and I will gag you without second thoughts. If you even manage to get it over your shiny lips...
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 03:20am on 22/05/2008
sorry vidding tuned out. yourfault.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 04:15am on 22/05/2008
It's always my fault, even when I'm not even in the same area - I sometimes think, you rock the guilt trip to hard, babe... *sigh*
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 04:17am on 22/05/2008
yep. always. you love them, makes you feel loved.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 04:20am on 22/05/2008
More needed than loved, but you know I only want to compensate my desire for you and you do a damn fine job with teh guilt.
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 04:22am on 22/05/2008
well your just being to needy tonight. I dont think i have enough guilt left.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 05:14am on 22/05/2008
That would be a first... *mind boggles*
 
posted by [identity profile] xandra-ptv.livejournal.com at 05:20am on 22/05/2008
yes, i know, you would think me being jewish makes it a bottomless pit... well it recharges i just have to guilt alot of people today,
 
posted by [identity profile] millylicious.livejournal.com at 04:03am on 22/05/2008
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMG I'M SO GLAD I DIDN'T GO TO BED EARLY LIKE I PLANNED *coughs*

I will now attempt to approach this in a very mature situation. And completely fail.

*downloads*
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 04:13am on 22/05/2008
*pets* Why is making you happy such an easy task sometimes?

God, I love you, Milly! Your SQUEE is too beautiful!
 
posted by [identity profile] millylicious.livejournal.com at 04:20am on 22/05/2008
You're the only one that can make me happy this easily *hugs* By being awesome and you :D

When I started vidding, I wasn't aware of the whole community and all, the concept of other people who were doing what I was doing? Ah! Impossible. But one day I ventured, and that day I found Touch My Soul and through it I found your vids. And 'My Skin' was like...whoa, revelation, that vids could be so much more than the simple things I was doing at the time. Even today, that 'old version' is still one of my favorite vids ever.

And this new version, I adore just as much. It's still got the same spirit, the same heart, it's just...more polished? Comparing the two versions, you definitely see your evolution as a vidder, but you also see that your heart is a fixed point. What comes to mind the most is the last portion, in which you have the multiple quotes over the instrumental part - that part in the original video was overly layered, but it worked - now, it works even more, because it still has the same effect while being more harmonious, more visually stunning (but I still love that section in the old version too ;) ).

And I love your placing, your timing with everything. Hell, I don't know how many times I've watched every single episodes and some shots made me gasp! And that's truly your biggest talent, you make everything yours, and this is most definitely you.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 05:10am on 22/05/2008
WOW – you did make me blush and speechless on purpose, Milly. Bad girl. So damn, what do I respond to such a breathtaking compliment?

First of all: Merci beaucoup.

Second: I think it is so damn easy to forget all the technical difficulties you had to fight in the dark ages of newbie vidding. The hair pulling, the lack of understanding why Premiere refused certain video-files and eat up others. The disheartening effect Premiere could have on you, when it refused to cooperate. Being proud of the result no matter how crappy it is compared to your new stuff, because wow your favourite song and your favourite TV show are coming together and isn’t it awesome? And then discovering the community, actually getting to know some people you only admired from afar and I especially think back nostalgic to Midnight Lair. I mean otherwise were would I be without Xandra and Charmax on my flist?

Like you said for every vidder there is an evolution going on and I hopefully never run out of the learning curve even when I have my technical cornerstones by now. The way every project is set up and I follow my own by trial and error patented patter. I think I said in the 2007 vid meme that vidding today for me is much more fun, because I know my way around blind in Premiere and in preparing the footage for it. I have a lot less fights with Premiere than I use to have and sometimes it feels a bit like cheating, because it is easy nowadays to vid.

To actually spend your time on cutting, editing, searching for your clips and telling a story with them, when back then half of your time was used figuring something out. So you have time to polish and to go the subtle road and try different approaches to your style, but in the end all that counts is the heart you put into your project. The thing that drives you to spend hours and days and weeks on a project, going over every single frame time and time again, because the imperfections bug your vision. Because that facial expression isn’t strong enough and why not try the other one then and see if it sticks this time and well, even when you know damn well that nobody else will notice these two frames over there and five there.

You want to capture an emotion, make it shine and sparkle - plain to see for everybody watching your vid where you, your love and your obsession are coming from. That’s vidding for me. And you made me babble incoherently. Thanks. Heh.
 
posted by [identity profile] marciaelena.livejournal.com at 12:19pm on 22/05/2008
Oh man. This vid is so beautiful and so layered I cried throuhg most of it. It made me remember why I loved Cordelia, and why for so long I was a Cordy/Angel shipper. Unlike Buffy/Angel--a pairing I intensely dislike--Cordy and Angel were friends. They *got* each other. They *knew* each other. They went through every possible high and low together and they made each other stronger and better. The love they felt for each other went much deeper than just attraction or a common goal/destiny shared--they *fit* each other, as people, in every possible way.

Thank you. ♥
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 11:37pm on 23/05/2008
It is so easy to go multilayered on these two, because despite Cordelia’s sharp tongue, frankness and sometimes brutal truth, she never carried her heart around on her sleeve for the whole world to see. It took always some time for her to truly open up to people and I adored that on her, once in her heart she would go to the end of the world for you and was fiercely loyal. And she made Angel a better person with her influence, not because she wanted him to change, but because she didn’t see a point in him suffer quietly and constantly brooding in the dark. It didn’t change one thing about his past to merge with the shadows, what he did on daily basis on the other hand mattered.

The people he saved, the lives he touched and the monsters he destroyed. Like you said these two knew each other and chose to be in each others life. The bond they shared was formed deliberate and strengthen with time and the trials they endured together. Every low, every high informed who they were. For me Buffy/Angel always seemed like the idea of two people falling in love with the idea of love and with no realization who they were truly falling for. Both were blind and never wanted to wake up from that dream and face real life together.

Thank you so much for your wonderful comment and I’m so happy you loved this vid so much and that it brought back so many good memories.
 
posted by [identity profile] haltlos.livejournal.com at 09:49pm on 22/05/2008
ahhhhhh So shiny... *is in love*

Feedback later.


Good night.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 11:19pm on 23/05/2008
Compared to the original? It's shiny and sparkly even with the muted colours. Heh.

Und Dankeschön, kann dein genaueres Feedback nicht erwarten...
 
posted by [identity profile] mresundance.livejournal.com at 10:57pm on 22/05/2008
Your vids are always a revelation. I am not even some of the fandoms you vid - and I will still watch pretty much anything you make. Even though I am not in these fandoms, you still manage to communicate so clearly the story and the emotions of the characters. All of your vids are deeply involving and often touching - they say something about the characters and their humanity on so many levels. Somehow, though, your eye for the core of character's humanity - the things about the characters that make them most available and vulnerable to an audience - somehow you always manage to bring out those things in such sharply focused and moving ways, ways not even those who created the characters seemed to grasp about their own creations.

The song is beautiful. This vid is a perfect tribute and character study for Cordelia. I can't really say much more.

On that note . . . I hope you don't mind the audacity of my asking: would you mind very much uploading the song for this? It's haunting.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 12:41am on 24/05/2008
Sure, no problem, you will find the song here (http://www.mediafire.com/?0pjydi4fnam) – I hope mediafire works for you, otherwise just give me a shout with your preferred free-service.

That out of the way - Uhm, thank you so much for this huge compliment about my vidding skills. I sure don’t mind luring an unsuspecting stranger into the awesomeness of my other fandoms, because to get me to the point to vid a show, it must be pretty impressive or exciting or at least have interesting characters in it. And there is always the tiny chance that I spark some interest for them as well. Vidding for me is always about discovering a character and showing to some degree, why I love her/him and what makes them unique for me. Flaws create interest, but usually in my vids I want to balance them out with their strengths and like you said, keep them human and give glimpses of what could lie beneath the smooth surface. If you have the feeling that I succeed only a little in these matters, I’m beyond thrilled and again, thank you for these encouraging and touching words. I’m so happy you enjoy my videos to that level.
 
posted by [identity profile] mresundance.livejournal.com at 11:44am on 24/05/2008
Thanks for the link!

Your vids are always worth watching and always give me so much to think on. And they're always inspiring to me as a green behind the ears vidder. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] bananabelcher.livejournal.com at 11:35pm on 22/05/2008
I found this vid through [livejournal.com profile] vidding and I'm insanely glad I took the time to download. This is an incredibly beautiful tribute to this couple, and it reminded me of exactly why I ship them. Their love for each other was so deep, and you did a wonderful job of showing that. The end sequence with the quotes over the instrumental was especially breathtaking, and I had a tear rolling down my cheek by the end. Thanks so much for sharing this.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 11:58pm on 23/05/2008
You’re very welcome and thank you so much for taking the time to write this beautiful comment. I’m so very happy that you found this vid so touching and of course that the emotions I was aiming for came through strongly and direct. I really loved this couple for their unique dynamic and while vidding I constantly went back to watching some scenes again just for the shire joy of their interaction.
 
posted by [identity profile] proofpudding.livejournal.com at 05:30am on 23/05/2008
AW. I love this. This song is a favorite of mine, and works incredibly well here. I also adore the quotes scattered throughout. To be honest, most of the context is lost on me... Nevertheless, I started tearing up right after Cordelia said, 'Angel, there are no people like us' , and kept on crying through the end. Beautiful vid. ♥
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 11:16pm on 23/05/2008
Merci beaucoup, I’m so happy I made you tear up and this sounds a bit weird. Anyway, the song is truly incredible and the instrumental parts are tempting to use audio quotes to make it more specific about this ship. I’m so happy they worked for you and that you enjoyed the vid so much.
 
posted by [identity profile] haltlos.livejournal.com at 02:27pm on 23/05/2008
Das ist zwar total off-topic und ich muss das Vid noch ein zweites Mal sehen für ein richtiges Feedback, doch ich habe eine Bitte.

Ich wollte fragen, ob du etwas für mich beta-lesen könntest. Es ist so ziemlich das längste, was ich seit langer Zeit geschrieben hab (12 Seiten) und ich weiß nicht, ob ich das richtige Ende gefunden habe. Es ist eine NCIS Story (also nicht dein Fandom), doch du schon einige meiner Stories gelesen hast und es das übliche Pairing ist, bin ich bei dir - denke ich - an der richtigen Adresse. (Gerade auch weil es nicht Fandom/Ship ist.) Es ist meine Tate story of doom, weil ich so lange damit gekämpft habe und nicht weiter kam.
Wäre toll, wenn du ein bisschen Freizeit opfern würdest. ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 11:10pm on 23/05/2008
Schick mir die Story einfach an astarte@fan-arts.net, du kennst meine Limits offensichtlich – Nicht mein Fandom, keine einzige Folge gesehen. Ein Grund, warum ich mich nicht auf dein LJ-post gemeldet habe, nachdem ich gesehen habe, dass du bereits Antworten hattest. Aber stilistisch und plot-mäßig sollte ich kein Problem haben. Also her mit der Fic, kann es nicht erwarten.
 
posted by [identity profile] gigglemonster.livejournal.com at 07:32am on 31/08/2008
So I first saw this video after finishing Buffy but before starting Angel. I wasn't really sure if I wanted to watch the show or not but after seeing this I very quickly changed my mind.
It's such a treat to watch the show and notice all the moments that I remember from the vid (the voice overs are especially powerful and fit so perfectly). Every time that happens I have to go watch the vid again! Each new time I watch it I'm able to view it with just a little more context and each time it gets even more beautiful.
There's so much emotion and heart in this vid and it nearly brought me to tears a few times.
The editing is gorgeous - I love what you do with transitions and coloring. There's something really unique about your style of editing and it's such a joy to watch.
Now I'm just rambling at you huh? Well, I just wanted to come tell you how much I adore the video and that I can't wait to watch it about a hundred more times by the time I finish the show ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 03:09am on 05/09/2008
Wow, thank you so much for this huge compliment and it’s kinda funny that I only discovered BtVS, because of the Spin off to get the background information out of the way. AtS darker tone and premise pretty much sold me instantly on the series and it had more fascinating characters for me with Cordy, Doyle, Wes, Darla and Lilah and looking at Angel didn’t hurt. So I’m more than happy that this video helped to spark your interest for the series and that you have a good time watching it and of course coming back to the vid with more knowledge.

And yeah, I really poured my heart into this one back then and just keep thinking about the remastering for a long time. I’m happy that my love for those two came through loud and clear, I just adored this ship in the first two seasons. Okay, thank you again for your wonderful feedback and I’m so thrilled that you loved ‘My Skin’ so much. Seriously.
 
posted by [identity profile] fuzzylilkisses.livejournal.com at 02:18pm on 15/09/2008

I watched this awhile ago, but i didnt have an LJ so i didnt bother commenting. I am totally in love with this video!! I love all your older Ats videos also.. I would love to see more of them remastered especially "Kinda i want to", that vid is killer!
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 12:21am on 17/09/2008
Well I just remembered that ‘Kinda I want to’ kicked my ass while vidding it – in a good way. Really I learned a lot, especially reading against text there. So no promises on more remasters, but if the mood strikes, it will be near the top of my to-do-list. And I’m really happy you loved ‘My skin’ as well as the older and dustier ones. Thank you so much!
 
posted by [identity profile] boom-queen.livejournal.com at 05:04pm on 01/10/2008
Here at [livejournal.com profile] dayln03's rec and this is gorgeous. Intensely emotional and just beautiful to watch. What an amazing vid!
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 06:12pm on 08/10/2008
Thank you so much. I’m delighted you enjoyed the vid and yeah, this one was all about the emotional rollercoaster for me.
 
posted by [identity profile] quicksand.livejournal.com at 08:59pm on 09/03/2009
I know I'm about a year late, but fucking wow. I just watched this video and it's incredible. I've never seen a music video for ANY show be that moving. Really amazing.
 
posted by [identity profile] astartexx.livejournal.com at 07:12pm on 10/03/2009
Never too late for feedback and thank you so much for your wonderful comment. I’m happy you enjoyed the vid and of course being moved by it, is always a vidders first goal.
 
posted by [identity profile] chorelle.livejournal.com at 05:23am on 01/09/2010
Wow. Just found this from a fuckyeahcordyangel (http://fuckyeahcordyangel.tumblr.com/) tumblr post, and was absolutely blown away.
And can I just say, audio over the top of vids almost always makes me smile, or cry as it may be. This vid did both. Thanks for creating a lovely tribute to C/A ❤
 
posted by [identity profile] angryscientist.livejournal.com at 10:06am on 21/09/2010
This video, absolutely gorgeous! I love that something new comes through every time I watch it, it's so layered and pretty <3

Do you have it posted on youtube or some other video site? I want to share and embedding BAM on Tumblr is a pain :)

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